Visit ScooterDMan's column >>

SCOOTERDMANHome Page

Holding up his trousers with extension cords
Add To Watchlist
Articles Posted: 91; Links Seeded: 114
Member Since: 1/2006Last Seen: 10/19/2009

In defense of hype: or How I learned to stop worrying and love the 'Fork.

You don't have time to comb the bottom of your swimming pool every day for dirt and debris, so you use a filter. Pitchfork is a filter. For music.

advertisement

Across the board, Pitchfork Media, a web site dedicated to music (news, features, free downloads and their infamous CD reviews) is categorically loathed across the Internet. By other music web sites, on message boards, at hipster get-togethers, even here at Newsvine (hint: check out the logo for our new "Listen In" Music Group). Pitchfork's penchant for generating "hype" about forthcoming records or up-and-coming bands has made it uncool, but I'm here to say "Stop the insanity!"

In communities across the web that focus on music, it seems that many people have come to resent Pitchfork and other similar outfits. Why? The most common line of reasoning: They tell you what to think. Why not just listen to the record yourself and make up your own mind?

OK. Point taken. I admit that I often like to listen to an album (or watch a movie, especially) before reading any reviews. But folks who think that by avoiding sites like Pitchfork they are standing tall as beacons of independent thinking are completely delusional.

Here's why.

Very few people are capable of using their own minds to locate good music in the first place. This is not meant to be a dig on the intellect of the general populace, rather it is meant to call attention to the rapidly changing world of music distribution and how it makes finding good music on your own nearly impossible. Who has the time?

Bands today have more ways of releasing/promoting their music than ever before and music consumers have more ways of stuffing their ears with new tunes, all thanks to the Internet. But with that being said, how are we to discern what's worth listening to? How can we possibly make sense of all this music? The answer is we can't because we have jobs or kids or iPod Shuffles. We need to be picky.

This is where Pitchfork, and other music review sites (::cough cough Listen Incough cough::) work their magic. Instead of thinking of Pitchfork as a mechanism for generating endless hype, think of it as a musical filter that sifts through a lot of the bull @!$%# and every so often directs your attention to an album, artist or brand of music you'd never paid attention to.

After all, it's not like you punks who "get your own music" are walking into music stores picking albums off the shelf at random. You've got your own filters in place (the radio, MTV, an older sibling, Zach Braff, whatever) and in many cases, they're probably a lot lamer than Pitchfork.

And if we are really honest with ourselves, we'd admit that the reason why we read music reviews in the first place is so that we can find music that other people like and then take a liking to it ourselves, further advancing ourselves up the arbitrary ladder of social sustainability. Take away the wannabe beards, horned rim glasses and too-small t-shirts, and we indie kids are just as likely to find comfort in the soothing warmth of the herd as your average sheep.

Just face it: You need music reviews. Pitchfork's oft-snarky, too-clever and condescending-ish write-ups can become annoying occasionally, but all in all, they play a pretty crucial role in the dissemination of a good deal of independent music. Be thankful. The 'Fork is your friend.

Not that you couldn't have figured that out on your own.

  • 13 Votes
  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Back To Top

Published to:

What's this?
Who's leading the conversation?
This visualization below allows you to see the impact that each user has on the current conversation. The top row contains the group of users who have had the most impact, the 2nd row the group of users who have had the 2nd most impact (et cetera). Users with similar impact are grouped together, and the average score of the group is shown to the left of the group. The author of the article is also shown on the left, in their corresponding group. Each user's score is based on the number of comments the user has made plus the number of votes their comments have received. The scores are calculated relative one another, so while their absolute value is not particularly important, their relative difference does indicate a larger difference in impact on the conversation.
15
5.1
{"commentId":1189619,"authorDomain":"scooterdman"}

Further reading: Die, Pitchfork, Die (from Slate)

{"commentId":1189619,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"scooterdman"}
  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:37 PM EST
{"commentId":1189663,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

I agree with you points about critics. I just think Pitchfork has annoying writers =P

{"commentId":1189663,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:57 PM EST
{"commentId":1189974,"authorDomain":"scooterdman"}

I think they occasionally have terrible reviews that stick out like sore thumbs, but I feel like they have really battened down the hatches on gimmicky reviews over the past few years.

Tell me you wouldn't do flips for the opportunity to write for Pitchfork?

{"commentId":1189974,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"scooterdman"}
  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:57 PM EST
{"commentId":1190565,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

For the exposure, probably I would. I realize they are the biggest music site on the Internet. However, 90% of the time I wander over there (usually curious about what they have to say about a record I've already listened to) I run into an article with 4 paragraphs of pretentious filler before evening beginning to talk about the record in question. This is the problem I have with Pitchfork reviews and why I don't think I've finished reading one in years.

{"commentId":1190565,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:45 AM EST
Reply
{"commentId":1190471,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}

are you talkig about hype or indoctrination?

{"commentId":1190471,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
    Reply#3 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:41 AM EST
    {"commentId":1190506,"authorDomain":"scooterdman"}

    I'm talking about hype. I leave indoctrination to parents and pastors. I'm not sure the internet can be an indoctrinating agent.

    {"commentId":1190506,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"scooterdman"}
    • 1 vote
    #3.1 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:08 AM EST
    Reply
    {"commentId":1192520,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    I don't like PFM for a few reasons.

    One, their reviews usually don't tell me much about the music (and 1A; when I listen to an album they've reviewed, it's more likely than not that I'll disagree with their assessment of what the do describe.

    Two, I feel the rating system Pitchfork employs plays too prominent a role in their reviews, making it difficult for badly-reviewed albums that are, in my opinion, actually pretty good to get airplay among Pitchfork devotees--which, being just about everyone who listens to Modest Mouse, chalks up to just about the entire English-speaking world.

    Three, since Pitchfork hit it big they're under pressure from advertisers to spin their content in a favourable way. The reviews may not have changed, but either Pfork and I are on totally different pages or they've become visible culprits of rating inflation. This helped me realise my first two points--that the reviews themselves may sound fancy, but aren't all too helpful without a rating to guide your reading.

    Four, their @!$%# takes way too long to load. Even before it was bursting at the seams of its too-tight girly jeans, this was an issue. Ever try to do an artist search? It's like using dialup.

    But that's just how I feel. You folks can read Pitchfork all you like. Thanks for writing this, SDM. Sorry you fainted...

    {"commentId":1192520,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}
    • 2 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:25 PM EST
    {"commentId":1193118,"authorDomain":"scooterdman"}

    Comment from phone. Must be brief. P4k rulz. How do you like archers of loaf but not modest mouse? It's like liking Seinfeld but not curb your enthusiasm. I give your comment a rating of 5.3. Meh.

    {"commentId":1193118,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"scooterdman"}
    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:56 AM EST
    {"commentId":1193650,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    Pwned!

    {"commentId":1193650,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:35 AM EST
    {"commentId":1194203,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}
    How do you like archers of loaf but not modest mouse? It's like liking Seinfeld but not curb your enthusiasm.

    At least Archers of Loaf made five albums. After leaving Up, Modest Mouse made one album five times. I like both Seinfeld and Curb. "P4k" doesn't "rulz". It doesn't even rulez. Why don't you go faint or something?

    {"commentId":1194203,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}
    • 1 vote
    #4.3 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:25 PM EST
    Reply
    {"commentId":1197417,"authorDomain":"dojc"}

    I used to read pitchfork daily about five or six years ago and now only check it out once in a blue moon. I know their reviews are overly long, writerly (which some consider prentious) and often don't really tell you what an album sounds like but I prefer PF to Rolling Stone anyday.

    {"commentId":1197417,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"dojc"}
    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:00 PM EST
    {"commentId":1197428,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    but I prefer PF to Rolling Stone anyday.

    Honestly that's not saying much (IMO.) Rolling Stone these days tends to be behind the curve. It's alright for features but I don't think the reviews are worth bothering with.

    {"commentId":1197428,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:05 PM EST
    {"commentId":1197470,"authorDomain":"dojc"}

    ok true dat. I'll concede How bout this though PF skewers another old school web site's reviews, Mark Prindles Reviews

    Although Prindle was the first review site or website period that I left a comment on so it'll always have that nostalgia factor going for it.

    {"commentId":1197470,"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447","authorDomain":"dojc"}
    • 3 votes
    #5.2 - Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:26 PM EST
    Reply
    {"canLink":false,"threadId":"176639","isPrivate":false}
    Leave a Comment:
    You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
    As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
    {"threadId":"176639","contentId":"1100447"}
    Start TrackingStart Tracking
    Stop TrackingStop Tracking